Omar Selim: Could you please introduce yourself?
Dr. Succar: My name is Billal Succar,I am working on BIM performance assessment. I have studied Interior Design, after that I studied “Architecture Management”. Then i got PhD degree in BIM in the field of performance evaluation. I have started my career in the field since 2003, I worked as a BIM Manager for five years and then i became a counselor in my own company.
Since 2009 I become specialized in the evaluation of BIM performance, I have established my own website to assess the performance of the companies and employees.
Omar Selim: What is the definition of BIM?
Dr. Succar: if you ask five people about BIM definition you will get six different answers, the definition which i have followed and developed by researches, is set of techniques and methods of work.
Omar Selim: How much did BIM spread?
Dr. Succar: It differs from country to another, Australia is not as UK, and an overview of BIM it has become Common since the beginning of the third millennium, but the technique and style was known in the 60s, but at that time it was not called BIM, and it was not successful because the technology was not advanced, the computers were weak and costly. Nowadays it is accepted technically as it became well-known in the late of 90s and the first of the third millennium. The main reason for this change is Auto desk as it developed revit and merged it with their programs,which makes people aware more about BIM Concept,But BIM Concept is Earlier than Revit and AutoCAD.
Omar Selim: The Benefits of BIM in design stages Is it real or is it subject of discussion?
Dr. Succar: BIM is no longer a subject of discussion, and varies from country to another. For example, Australia, USA and UK recognized the benefits and it is no longer a subject of discussion, BIM has benefits at all stages of the lifetime of the project from beginning, before design and operation phase. The most benefits of BIM is not only the design, but in all the following phases of the project FACILITY MANAGEMENT OPERATION.
Omar Selim: How is BIM related to the project management?
Dr. Succar: There are two answers. The first one is: the project manager is the weaken point to adopt BIM. The designers and project owner are forerunners, the Project Manager must take advantage of BIM, so that they can develop the project management manner by visualized way before the PHYSICAL.
The second answer is, the BIM supports project management by encouraging the cooperation and the exchange of data, in order to get good results.
Omar Selim: an advice to the project manager, how can he/she take advantage of the BIM?
Dr. Succar: Project Manager is the biggest beneficiary of BIM if he decides to take the advantage of it, because of the integration of BIM for design or Construction, it gives the transparency to detect errors at the early phases, they also could take advantage and reduce risks.
Omar Selim: What is the relationship between BIM with laws and regulations and model contract? For example, who owns the model? Because the courts do not know CAD, so it can’t judge about BIM.
Dr. Succar: The model consists of numbers of elements (doors, windows ..etc) and not one element, so we must differentiate between the owner of the model and who built it. This follows the contract which is called BIM EXECUTION PLAN.
Omar Selim: How do the countries and companies evaluate BIM?
Dr. Succar: For example, Australia for ten years, small numbers of engineering companies used BIM technology and it used for them. In the past four or five years, contractors and owners used BIM and in the UK. We can measure BIM maturity in any country by accreditation ratio of BIM, the maturity of a country, and we compare between USA and UK, UAE and Qatar according to the following factors:
Number of companies using BIM
Do the Universities teach special topics in BIM technology
Protocol – specially of BIM and elements.
Thus, a number of possible factors which can be measured in each country, according to this basis we can measure maturity of the BIM technology.
Omar Selim: what is better BIM to be imposed or to be optional?
Dr. Succar: There is no easy answer, depends on your country’s culture. What was the country’s initial system before the BIM implementation, a good example of this type of country that won’t impose is the USA and Australia. Because it rejects possible governmental intervention and it may create a backfire, therefore these countries do not impose.
But the industry in other the countries considers what exactly do you do, for example, countries like Singapore and the Gulf, as well as part of the UK if the government did not obligate engineering firms to apply BIM they would never implement it, For example; Singapore’s reliance on the state regulation is obligatory.
Omar Selim: Is it better to have standard criteria in each country?
Dr. Succar: Of course, it is better to have the unified standard, but it must contains maturity and it must go through certain period where there are larger number of the guidelines and the standards. Then it reaches the mature period in the future where there must be one. The answer is obvious, but there will be people who will not be convinced in the beginning.
Omar Selim: Is each company trying to work out something special?
Dr. Succar: The government in general does not mandate to have details or to identify the small elements but it determines the outcome, and what should be delivered “performance matrix”. It never interferes how the model design or its details.
After that the organizations develop manuals to guide companies within the members. Moreover, each company is required to follow the protocol and not the standard, so every person within the company can make the model in the same way.
Guide subject has 3 parts:
The government has a role.
Organizations have a role.
And the company has a role.
Omar Selim: If the government imposes restriction such as it would receive BIM projects only, then what criteria you would tell the government about BIM?
Dr. Succar: The government, the owner or any other person who will benefit from BIM, must have knowledge about BIM, If the owner has no knowledge so he will consider anything colorful 3D handed to him by the designer is the BIM. The only way we guarantee that this is BIM and it is designed accurately with enough data, is to educate the owner and the project manager. And to develop the requirement chain by those who determines BIM for them. And they should have members who have experience in assessments of what is delivered.
If these requirements do not exist and those people are not in the government or with the owner, then anything will be delivered to them is the same.
Translated By: Mohammad Abdo.
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